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Silmerion Skywalker
 Posted: January 05, 2008 08:29 am
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As the new Force Advisor, I created this topic for any questions you may have about the Force.
Each Jedi has his/her own way to feel the Force and a special relationship with It.
As Master Yoda said, the Force is an infinite mystery and we will never stop to study It and learn from It.
The Force can be a powerful Ally but it is very important to always respect It and use it in a wise way.
Feel free to post here your problems or questions, I'll be glad to search for solutions...

May the Force be with you
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"An infinite mystery is the Force.
The more we learn, the more we discover how much we do not know."

"Jedi feel the Force as an ocean of energy in which they immerse themselves, floating with Its currents, or directing Its waves."

"An unwise Jedi might consider the Force a tool, a means to his own ends. But a true Jedi understands that the Force is a partner on a concurrent course, a common pathway to true harmony and understanding."

"Luminous Beings we are, not this crude matter."

"Rejoice for those who transformed into the Force"
*Bows Low* to my dear friend and awesome Padawan Atreyu, who is always with us through the Force.


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Dogan Nar
 Posted: January 05, 2008 04:35 pm
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First off, congratulations on becoming the new FA, I think you'll do well.

Ok, so for my question: What is your view on sensitizing the hands?


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Silmerion Skywalker
 Posted: January 06, 2008 08:39 am
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In the taoist tradition, the center of the palms are two of the six "energy doors" of the body, they call this part Lao Gong.The Lao Gong is one of the most important point as it is used not only to "breath in" the Force but also to spread and direct the Force, for exemple to heal someone or oneself. I know that there are several techniques to sensitize the hands but I've always been very prudent about them also because I noticed that with practicing Qiqong and Master Fu's Force exercises, the hands become more sensitive.
I hope I answered your question

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FORMER PADAWAN TO KAI STORMWALKER

"An infinite mystery is the Force.
The more we learn, the more we discover how much we do not know."

"Jedi feel the Force as an ocean of energy in which they immerse themselves, floating with Its currents, or directing Its waves."

"An unwise Jedi might consider the Force a tool, a means to his own ends. But a true Jedi understands that the Force is a partner on a concurrent course, a common pathway to true harmony and understanding."

"Luminous Beings we are, not this crude matter."

"Rejoice for those who transformed into the Force"
*Bows Low* to my dear friend and awesome Padawan Atreyu, who is always with us through the Force.


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Dogan Nar
 Posted: January 10, 2008 01:16 pm
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Yep. Thanks smile.gif


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"Well, I assure you, I see more grey than dark or light. I'm just a stubborn old man, tired of the foolishness of others."
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Dogan Nar
 Posted: January 13, 2008 07:00 pm
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Is it possible to use the Force to slow objects down, or at least slow them down in your perception? I recently saw video proof that a properly forged katana can cut a bullet in half. What I'm wondering is if a Jedi could develop the ability to slow objects (such as a bullet) down, or make them appear to be moving slower in his own mind, in order to be able to "deflect" them.

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"Learning to fight is important to a Jedi. However, it is equally, or even more, important to learn when not to fight."
~~Dogan Nar~~

"Well, I assure you, I see more grey than dark or light. I'm just a stubborn old man, tired of the foolishness of others."
~~Jolee Bindo to Revan in the Shadowlands of Kashyyyk~~

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Keldondonovan
 Posted: January 14, 2008 01:25 am
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Is it possible to use the Force to slow objects down, or at least slow them down in your perception? I recently saw video proof that a properly forged katana can cut a bullet in half. What I'm wondering is if a Jedi could develop the ability to slow objects (such as a bullet) down, or make them appear to be moving slower in his own mind, in order to be able to "deflect" them.

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While I'm not sure if it is a teaching of the force, it is possible, although I highly advise testing this with bullets, as it could prove to be very dangerous.

And to clarify, I mean that both are possible. Go to a batting cage and practice a bit.
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 Posted: January 14, 2008 03:12 am
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highly doubt it.but go ahead if you want to
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 Posted: January 14, 2008 06:38 am
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There are loads of theories on the internet about a thing called "chronokinesis". Chronokinesis is about speeding up or slowing down your own perception of time. It sometimes happens naturally as a result of a surge of chemical activity in a near death experience. Meditation might help unlock this ability, I myself have not tried it before but I have talked to people who have.

As for slowing down bullets.... that would be a lot harder because of the speed they travel. However it is possible but I doubt you would be able to reduce the speed by very much. It's all down to forces (pun intended lol) when the bullet is coming at you the only real thing reducing the speed is a small bit of air resistance. So by using the force to push the bullet backwards, the speed would decrease slightly. However I would not really advise doing this method... (to get a good idea of what I'm saying, watch Sylar from Heroes in season 1).

The method I would advise (which I am working on) to not die as a result of a bullet shot is simply to dodge them. Sounds crazy right? Well it isn't. Sure you may not be able to move faster than a bullet, but you can move faster than the person's trigger finger. I am working on building up my leg muscles so I can at the drop of a hat spring off one leg to the left or right. Here is what might happen. When the gun is about to be fired, the Jedi feels the shooter's emotion of killing, so quickly pushes off one leg in one direction. The bullet is fired. The Jedi is unharmed. This might look like the Jedi can dodge bullets cool.gif
However I'm still working on this method

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Silmerion Skywalker
 Posted: January 14, 2008 07:34 am
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Many persons who have been practicing Tai-Chi for years told me this practice allows them to see things moving slowlier, in their perception. I experienced it when I practiced Tae-Kwondo, I realized that during the fights, I was able during a certain amount of time, to anticipate the opponent's moves so that I could dodge them. I also noticed that we can't do that with our conscious mind. I found 2 texts that can explain this state. The first is written by George Lucas in "A New Hope":
"You must try to divorce your actions from conscious control. Try not to focus on anything concrete, visually or mentally. You must let your mind drift, drift; only then can you use the Force. You have to enter a state in which you act on what you sense, not on what you think beforehand. You must cease cogitation, relax, stop thinking...let yourself drift...free...free..."
I found this same concept in a japanese book written by Takuan Soho , a Zen Monk, in the XVIth Century:
"When this "no-mind" is well developped, the mind doesn't stop on anything, nor is absent from anything. It is like the water which runs over and exists in itself. It appears in the best way when the situation requires it. (...)
Make of your "don't retain the mind in only one place" the secret principle of watching and listening."
The point is that this state can be reached only after many years of meditation. In fact, the first step to learn is to have our mind focused, that is why we usually choose a meditation object on which our mind should remain focused. Only when we have experience with this first step, we can train in the second: the state in which the mind doesn't dwell in one place but is everywhere.
I think someone well trained in this mental art could even be able to dogde a bullet but according to me, it can only be achieved after years of inner work.
Chronokinesis is something else but I believe it requires even more training and should be more difficult to fully control than the "no-mind" state.

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"An infinite mystery is the Force.
The more we learn, the more we discover how much we do not know."

"Jedi feel the Force as an ocean of energy in which they immerse themselves, floating with Its currents, or directing Its waves."

"An unwise Jedi might consider the Force a tool, a means to his own ends. But a true Jedi understands that the Force is a partner on a concurrent course, a common pathway to true harmony and understanding."

"Luminous Beings we are, not this crude matter."

"Rejoice for those who transformed into the Force"
*Bows Low* to my dear friend and awesome Padawan Atreyu, who is always with us through the Force.


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Keldondonovan
 Posted: January 14, 2008 11:49 am
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I think it is possible just by the watched pot never boils theory.

Ever notice time moves slower when your looking at the clock? Or at least it seems to, which is all that would matter in this case.

However, rather than trying to force push the bullets backwards, why not force push them sideways, so that you change their angular velocity, and cause them to miss?

It shouldn't matter which direction you push though, because the fact that it is harder to push a bullet backward than it is to push it sideways is just in our mind.
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 Posted: January 15, 2008 01:37 am
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hm with the speed of the bullet...take alot of power
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Thats the kind of thinking that must be undone. It is no different whether you life a feather or a house, whether you slow a rolling ball or a bullet.

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Silmerion Skywalker
 Posted: January 15, 2008 06:27 am
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I agree Keldondonovan, and in the case of slowing a bullet, our action would not be directly on the object but on time itself. Of course, as I wrote before, in order to influence time in a situation of danger, a Jedi should totally master Chronokinesis, so it is better to try it in a more peaceful situation like working with a simple clock.

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"An infinite mystery is the Force.
The more we learn, the more we discover how much we do not know."

"Jedi feel the Force as an ocean of energy in which they immerse themselves, floating with Its currents, or directing Its waves."

"An unwise Jedi might consider the Force a tool, a means to his own ends. But a true Jedi understands that the Force is a partner on a concurrent course, a common pathway to true harmony and understanding."

"Luminous Beings we are, not this crude matter."

"Rejoice for those who transformed into the Force"
*Bows Low* to my dear friend and awesome Padawan Atreyu, who is always with us through the Force.


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Keldondonovan
 Posted: January 15, 2008 10:43 am
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Oh I completely agree. I'm in no way advocating anyone "Trying this out" by having someone shoot them while they swing madly with a katana.

I say if you wanna test it, first practice with a clock, or even rolling a ball down a hill and slowing its descent. When you are confident enough to try and test it in a more "People are shooting at me" type environment, put on a helmet, get a quarterstaff, and go to the batting cage. That will give you the closest thing to deflecting bullets that I can think of.
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Dogan Nar
 Posted: January 15, 2008 11:31 am
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*Walks over to Cass* Hey Cass, grab your M-16 would you please? And make sure it's set on fully automatic. *Cass opens fire at me while I run around and swing a sword*.

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"Learning to fight is important to a Jedi. However, it is equally, or even more, important to learn when not to fight."
~~Dogan Nar~~

"Well, I assure you, I see more grey than dark or light. I'm just a stubborn old man, tired of the foolishness of others."
~~Jolee Bindo to Revan in the Shadowlands of Kashyyyk~~

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